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Today my guest is Nancy from Nancy J Designs. She is going to bust a few common sustainability packaging myths for eco friendly products. Because I know there are so many sustainable brands who are really striving to make a bigger impact on our planet but just aren’t quite sure when to start when it comes to packaging.

Your ethical consumers maybe are asking “is this packaging paper made from recycled materials?” or  “Is this ink in your packaging soy based?” It’s really surprising how many people take the time to find out more about what they are purchasing! 

During this episode Nancy is also going to discuss:

  • Trends and new products in the eco packaging world 
  • Shed some light on different sustainable and recyclable packaging symbols 
  • Share advice on how you can start changing your packaging today! 

If you want to be inspired and learn more about why it’s important to package your ethical products with sustainable packaging solutions rather than conventional ‘normal’ plastic products then this is the episode for you.

 

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PETRIA: Welcome to the Sustainable Shift Podcast by your host Petria Leggo-Field. This podcast is dedicated to helping your eco-business make a bigger impact, become more visible and make more sales. In this podcast, we will cover actionable steps to gain more exposure for your sustainable and ethically focused small business all whilst juggling motherhood. Consider this your go-to community of people who just get it and leave each episode, feeling educated, inspired and most of all motivated. So grow with me as I support your mission, shift you into gear and help shift the world in an ecofriendly way with the next episode of the Sustainable Shift Podcast. I have a question for you as an eco-entrepreneur do you often feel like you’re supposed to know everything about every single part of your business, including how to package your products to have the least impact on our planet? Maybe your customers have been asking is this packaging paper made from recycled materials or is this ink in your packaging soy-based? It’s honestly really surprising how many people take the time to find out more about what they’re purchasing. 

I personally have experienced this before and all my goodness it can be so overwhelming especially in the early years of my first business. That’s why I started to turn to other eco industry experts who have real experience and they can teach me and they can share their knowledge, so my business could create a bigger impact on our environment. I really needed to learn and really expand my knowledge because it’s really hard when you’re first starting out because you don’t know what you don’t know  The sustainable business world can be so confusing as a whole because there isn’t necessarily a single process to be more eco. Every business is different and has different supply chains and of course different products. So, where am I going with this, today my guest Nancy from Nancy J designs is going to bust a few really common sustainability packaging myths because I know there’s so many brands out there who are really striving to make a bigger impact on our planet but just aren’t quite sure where to start when it comes to packaging.

During this episode, Nancy is also going to discuss some new trends and new products in the eco-packaging world. She is also going to shed some light on a few different sustainable and recyclable packaging symbols and she will also share advice on how you can start changing your packaging today. This isn’t the first time Nancy and I have come together, she is such a gorgeous soul and I know you’re going to absolutely fall in love with her and of course her accent. A little bit more about Nancy is that she is an eco-minded graphic designer that really harnesses some thoughtful and considered branding, visual design and packaging to really give your business clarity, direction and purpose. Most importantly she does it in a way that allows you to be in alignment with your sustainable and eco-conscious values and this really supports your success and the vision for a better world. 

I have to tell you, we actually chatted for about 20 minutes before recording this episode all about life, about our children, our businesses and of course many sustainable topics. Let me tell you about, she is really passionate, such a passionate eco-warrior and she really wants to make a difference. I wanted to give you a little glimpse behind the scenes of what it’s like for every type of business to create a ripple effect for our children’s generations. It doesn’t matter if you’re a product-based service space whatever business you are in every single eco change you make in your business is one step in the right direction.  So without further ado, I won’t make you wait any longer, let’s get into today’s episode.

Hello, Nancy, welcome to the Sustainable Shift Podcast. 

NANCY: Hi, thanks for having me.

PETRIA: My pleasure, I was super excited when you said yes to come and chat to me because I know so many of our listeners will be needing your advice here today. 

NANCY: Oh that’s great.

PETRIA: Now what we’re going to chat about today is more sustainable and eco-friendly packaging because I know there are so many brands out there that really know that they need to be making that impact. But I think there’s so many common misconceptions and just beliefs that they just don’t really understand about what’s right or what’s wrong, or a lot of confusion. I’m really hoping today that we can delve into that more, but before we jump into it, let’s have, I’m going to hand the mic over to you and I’d love to know more about you and your business.

NANCY: Yeah, definitely so I am a graphic designer I help eco-focused businesses create packaging and branding mainly that’s more aligned to their sustainable values. I started my business oh it’s been just over a year now that I’ve been in business, anything else you want to know?

PETRIA: How have you found your first year in business?

NANCY: Yeah, well it’s been like were saying before it’s been a roller coaster. But it’s really exciting I feel like we’re starting to take shape and like I’m working with some really amazing businesses and starting to see the impact of what I’m doing which is really inspiring, that’s what’s guiding me forward.

PETRIA: It’s so true I think every listener who’s listening to this would have seen that Facebook mem as were talking before, it’s like, there’s massive highs and massive lows. But I think when you’re really passionate about what you do it makes it all worthwhile.

NANCY: Absolutely, yeah.

PETRIA: Even, I think eco-entrepreneurs we have a different we have a bigger why like obviously going into business is amazing. But I think when you’re more focused on making that ripple effect because, at the end of the day, our children are going to see the impacts of what we create now. Do you think so?

NANCY: Yeah, it’s really exciting too to see more businesses making the change, whether that’s part of their platform or it’s just something they’re doing in the sidelines like they’re not using it as a marketing tool. I feel like a lot of businesses are shifting in that direction, which is great.

PETRIA: Yeah, I know. I think it’s so good. Let me ask you, would you like to share you’ve got an accent, so share where you’re from? Do you have any children? Where are you based?

NANCY: Yes, so I’m Canadian born in Toronto and I moved to Australia in 2011, so it’s been 10 years almost now, which is crazy. I’ve had two kids both born in Australia so they’re dual citizens. What else, they’re very young so they take up a lot of my time. I have three babies, my business and my two girls.

PETRIA: I say that as well, it’s like my business baby, I’m just going to work on my business baby now because you have to work on them like if you can’t just create this website and go, okay, cool, go business.

NANCY: There’s always all these ideas running around in your head or you’re just like I got to carry a notebook with me everywhere or like notes in my phone.

PETRIA: Yes, I have so many notes in my phone and it’s already just, oh probably about a week ago, I went back through to some one’s in January because I wrote lots of goals in there and it’s actually really amazing. I think whether you’re handwriting it or typing something you can actually make things come true like a really big believer with the manifestation of goal setting. It’s really interesting to go back through your old notes because to put it into as a note and take that time like it must have been important. 

NANCY: Yeah.

PETRIA: Amazing, well Nancy, I would love for you to share more about the eco-friendly packaging that you’re designing for brands. Do you, or are there any trends that you’re seeing at the moment for maybe for someone who is a new business, they haven’t got any eco-packaging? What trends are you seeing and what would you suggest to get them started?

NANCY: Oh, well it kind of depends on the size of the business and what they do, there’s so many options out there now, which is so exciting. So what can I suggest, so I guess a big trend, well, it’s hard because I’m so deep in this space, I get focused on the little things that become bigger things and then you realize, oh, I’m doing this, but I’m not doing that. It just like compiles, but what I’m talking about is I’ve been seeing a lot of conversations happening about, labels eco-friendly labels for skincare. 

I’ve done a few stories on this lately I’m talking about it a lot because I have a client that I’m trying to sort it out for. But like eco-friendly labels, because a lot of times labels or the packaging has adhesives in them or like finishes on the top, which makes them not ecofriendly even though maybe the base material is eco-friendly. So trying to find a way around that and that seems to be a big issue right now, like people saying like my packaging is ecofriendly but then it’s got this other element that makes it not so eco-friendly. I think that the goal is trying to do better than what you were doing before.

PETRIA: Yeah, that’s so true because I don’t think anyone, whether it be or personal can be 100% sustainable or 100% ethical. We’re humans like the biggest thing like you just said is working one change, one thing and working towards another step or just looking forward rather than just focusing on all the things that you’re doing wrong. 

NANCY: Right, yes, absolutely.

PETRIA: I did see in your stories the other day that you were testing out a few different label papers, what are the types of paper that you were testing because there weren’t the usual paper labels where they?

NANCY: No, this is really exciting because up until I’m like I’m still doing a lot of research myself trying to find suppliers that are locally based because there’s great alternative papers out there but a lot of the suppliers are overseas. If you’re asking a printer to use that paper but they have to ship it from the US then how eco-friendly is that? But anyway, so I’ve found this label supplier who’s in they’re based in New Zealand but they have printers in Australia as well. They have some really cool materials and they’re using things like bio-plastics they have some corn-starch based materials and what else do they have craft paper, recycled paper.

But the really good thing about them and this is something I guess, going back to your first question that I would say is a good thing for businesses to think about is when you’re choosing a printer, what facilities do they have in place to like dispose of their materials? So this printer, they have not only do they have these really cool materials, but they also have a recycling process in place so they can recycle the materials. 

PETRIA: So the materials that they are using when they are making the product or once the product is been used by the consumer?

NANCY: Once the product’s been used, so with labels, we’re talking about labels. With labels, there’s a backing sheet that you pull off and throw away. It can’t be recycled because it has like a film on it, they take all of that stuff back and they have a process where they separate it and recycle it properly. 

PETRIA: Wow, that’s amazing.

NANCY: Yeah, it really good because not, I would say most printers don’t have that ability and I don’t know how, where you are at with the whole recycling process, but it’s very confusing like I don’t think a lot of people know, like what happens to your recycling when it goes in the bin like does it even get recycled and most of the time it doesn’t.

PETRIA: Yeah, I think it’s education is what’s happening it’s no one’s being educated right from the, whether it be the Government or whether it be mainstream media, the education isn’t filtering down clear enough. I even myself as well a few years ago now when suddenly our recycling or rubbish wasn’t able to be shipped offshore, I did not realize that any of that was happening.

NANCY: I know it’s insane that we even do that.

PETRIA: Yeah, but even for people that are in eco industries you just don’t realise you don’t know what you don’t know until it suddenly it has become mainstream media. But I think that’s amazing that printing company is thinking about all the other effects afterwards, more so aiming for like a circular economy business, like their own little ecosystem to help.

NANCY: Yup.

PETRIA: That’s amazing, what’s the name of the business for anyone wanting to go check them out?

NANCY: They’re called Hally labels and the weird thing about them is they don’t come up in a search when they need to work on that, but they don’t come up in a search when you search, like eco-friendly labels Australia. I just came across them somehow and looking at their website like they don’t advertise themselves as an eco-friendly printer. But you look and like you have all these really amazing materials, I’m like oh my God it was like a gold mine.

PETRIA: Oh, that’s amazing, what I might do is I might pop their website down in the show notes for anyone wanting to check them out. So you’re doing a lot of research, your understanding of different labels are you coming across any different, like any different symbols or things that businesses should be using or need to be using as in like recycling or compostable, any of those things. Are you finding that’s coming up as a bit of a confusing area for businesses?

NANCY: Yeah, interesting you say that because I have been recently looking into those types of labelling and I mean, I just came across at the Australian recycling, oh what’s it, Australian recycling labelling system, which I wasn’t even aware of, but it’s been around for quite some time and I’m just starting to see it. Now, that I’ve learned about it, I’m noticing it on all this packaging. But it’s this really awesome system that the Government has put together or I don’t know if they’re Government funded, but they have symbols telling you which piece of the packaging needs to be disposed of and how. So when you get a package sometimes there’s elements that can be recycled but there’s other elements that can’t or there’s, and they just, they educate you. They say this bit needs to go in the recycling bin this bit needs to go back to your store if they do red cycling and this bit needs to go in the trash.

PETRIA: Okay, so are these on lots of products now that you’re saying that you notice it? 

NANCY: They’re not, it’s not on a lot of products, honestly I don’t know why they wouldn’t be using it because I don’t think it’s something you have to get like certified for. I think it’s readily available, I don’t know why people wouldn’t be using it, but I think it’s a really good initiative. 

PETRIA: Yeah, again I think it comes down to the consumer because even now like I don’t know how many symbols there are in this. But you would have to know them or you’d have to maybe have a little chart at home so you could separate it into the different…

NANCY: Yeah, it’s just recycling, it’s for recycling so it’s a typical recycling sign with the three arrows and then it just, it indicates below because you don’t know after this conversation, if you go through your pantry and you look at all the packaging, you’ll see that everyone uses the recycling symbol differently. They’ll just have like a little, the three arrows on the bottom of the box or they’ll have it with like a little message please dispose of responsibly or whatever.  But this one it just has a very standardised, there’s like depending how many pieces are in your package so it’ll just have the recycling symbol and below it will say, recycle lid, take back to your store film, put in the trash I don’t know wrapper or whatever, like it just tells you which piece to put where and it’s just so clear. 

So it will help with the consumer disposing of their products properly which helps us be able to recycle more waste because when you don’t separate it just goes to landfill. 

PETRIA: Yeah, that’s so true, I think it’s really important for businesses to be really aware of these things because, at the end of the day, an eco-consumer would start to be looking for these things once they are educated and they know it. So if your product has the symbols on it you’re standing yourself out of a whole lift, a whole range of products. If you’re looking at some, say at whole foods or somewhere in a store that people will go, oh, okay right I can, I know I can recycle this or I can return this. Is it like TerraCycle, red cycle, all the other initiatives that are really doing amazing things? But again, people just it’s the education they need to be more aware and I’m hoping that this podcast can shed that light because I think once you are made aware it, you can make those decisions easier. 

NANCY: Yeah, definitely I mean I’m even learning, there’s lots of packaging that I’ve seen using this system and I’m like, oh my gosh, I can’t recycle that part I’ve been throwing it in the recycling all this time and it’s not even recyclable.

PETRIA: Yeah, I think that’s so true even I saw there’s a pasta brand, like a blue Italian pasta brand and they’ve only just recently taken out the little clear plastic section. Do you know which I can’t remember what brand it’s called?

NANCY: I don’t remember the brand, but I know what you’re talking about I might’ve seen it on your feed. 

PETRIA: Yeah, it was somewhere that I don’t know whether I shared it or someone else did, but they have actually used it as a marketing, advertisement. Now it’s like we’re changing, we’re doing one pasta box at a time as to a step towards a better environment or along those lines and I think that’s amazing that big corporations have started doing that.

NANCY: Yeah, that could be the reason why they haven’t adopted the new labelling system. Maybe they have like old packaging, you print a lot of companies print by like in mass, maybe they’re working through their old packaging before they switched over to the new that’s what they’re doing. 

PETRIA: I was to say that would lead me to another question, so say, for instance, we’ve got a person who has a business where they’ve got X amount of plastic packaging labels or they’re putting their products into a box that’s not recyclable. What do you suggest? Do you suggest that they should use those packaging up first before they then look at redesigning something more eco or what would your thoughts be on that? 

NANCY: Yeah, definitely use it up. I mean you’ve invested in the packaging and I mean if you’re going to just throw it away, then that’s probably even more wasteful than not packaging your product in it. If you already have it and just phase it out, that’s what I think is, making small changes as you can, or looking at the whole cycle like where maybe the packaging isn’t the most damaging part of your business. Maybe it’s the fact that it’s being manufactured overseas and the shipping is the most damaging part, so it’s just looking at the whole cycle, the whole process of your system and finding the best areas for improvement. 

PETRIA: I like that you said that it’s an improvement, again I don’t think any businesses can be 100%, but to make those small little improvements and it’s the impact that you’re making. I find that a lot of businesses don’t, they don’t like to share what they’re doing because they feel that they’re not being eco enough. There’s some businesses I’ve talked to don’t even want to be classified as ethical or eco-friendly because they’re like, oh no, we haven’t, it’s exactly that we’re getting our product still made overseas, but it’s an eco-product made in an ethical factory and it’s still being shipped in ethical things. Everything’s got those really nice base but they feel that they’re a bit afraid to make that announcement that they’re actually are doing good things for the environment because they’re a bit scared of being judged I think.

NANCY: Absolutely, I think that if you don’t want to be seen as greenwashing or it’s something like if they’re like well, you’re not doing this but you say you’re doing this and then it’s just like you just opened yourself up for all this criticism. But I think something is better than nothing, so yeah, you don’t have to advertise it but you can still do it. 

PETRIA: Millions of businesses making small impacts will definitely create that ripple. 

NANCY: Totally.

PETRIA: Now, Nancy so what advice would you give to anyone who wants to start to change their packaging? Are there any steps that you would step your clients through? What’s a tip that you could give for someone who wants to look at being a bit more ethical in their packaging. 

NANCY: Yeah, well it depends how far they want to dive into it. Oh, there’s lots of different ways you can go about it but I guess basically like I said before, it’s just looking at the whole process. So from start to finish where is the best area to focus on for improvement? So I mean a lot of people focus on the materials, oh, I’ve just got to get recycled materials or whatever it is, but that might not be the solution. Maybe your materials are good enough but you need to focus on moving your manufacturing onshore or understanding who’s manufacturing your products or where the raw materials are coming from, or I dunno, maybe there’s bits of your packaging that you can reduce which is going to save you money in the long run. You can take that out and then you have less waste or if you really want to dive into it and like make a huge shift it’s like redesigning your packaging or your product, you see all these shampoos, bar shampoos like there’s a big shift towards that. They completely change their product to be more sustainable, and then the packaging follows along with that. 

PETRIA: Yeah, I love that and you shared recently as well about redesigning your product into like possibly could be turned into a coat hanger. What was it, what was that tip I remember you sharing? Because I love that I thought that was just, it was just amazing.

NANCY: Yeah, that’s like top-level wanting to be eco, your packaging never enters the landfill. So you make it so that it’s reusable as like maybe you’re packaging something in a container that’s really beautiful so people are going want to keep it and reuse it. Or you’re creating your packaging really innovatively that it serves as a second purpose which takes creative thinking, but yeah, the coat hanger one was an idea I’d seen. I think it was a shirt or some garment that was packaged in a box and then the box folded out and became a paper like a cardboard coat hanger.

PETRIA: Yeah, I think it was great. It’s funny because I haven’t necessarily seen it for adults, but for babies, I know sometimes if you’re buying like a little onesie or something they can sometimes come with a little coat hanger with it. I think that’s a good idea if you have to get it anyway then you can still use it.

NANCY: Yeah. 

PETRIA: Yeah, oh that’s amazing. What is the number one environmentally friendly packaging? So I know you’ve mentioned craft paper and you’ve mentioned the different labels, but is there something that you really recommend that can create the biggest impact or do you think maybe a couple of different options? 

NANCY: Well, I mean no packaging is probably the most sustainable, which puts me out of a job. But oh, I don’t know I guess like it really takes a lot of research because you need to know, I mean, there’s some really cool, innovative materials they’re coming up with sorry, plastic-like materials that are made out of food, like corn and sugar and things like that. I don’t know what manufacturing is required to make that, so I mean, obviously, I think plastic is the least sustainable like single-use plastic is not great and everybody knows that. Yeah, that would be the least, but the best I don’t know. I guess I would say it’s something that’s compostable. Yeah, that’s going to, like you said, like be a circular cycle, so it doesn’t leave a footprint, it doesn’t, it leaves the least amount of footprint and it regenerates back into the system.

PETRIA: I think that’s a really good idea about the compostable, but for people who aren’t familiar with it just to maybe research or jump onto Google to look for the home compostable because I think there’s sometimes that confusion with compostable, but it has to be sent back to the factory to be composited. Have you seen the different ones with those? 

NANCY: I have and I mean, that’s a whole, this is what I mean about like sustainability is so complex. I found something that’s compostable, but certain things can be composted in your home compost and certain things have to go to an industrial because it has the right, I don’t know the right conditions for it to compost properly. Otherwise, it’s just creating methane and it’s just as bad as landfill, but it’s not what you think it is. So, yeah that understanding that education like that all needs to come in there is, Australia does have certification compost, home compost and industrial compost certification marks. I have not seen them on packaging so I don’t know how readily they’re used or if this is like a new thing that’s going to take shape, have you seen them?

PETRIA: On the mailers, you know how everyone’s doing the compostable mailers now and I did do a bit of a test. I was like are they really compostable, so I just dug a hole in my garden and covered it with dirt and it’s gone now. It’s been probably it would be over a year I don’t know how long their actual compostable time is. But for anyone listening out there, who’s really scared about being compostable, you don’t have to even have a compost bin. I myself do a very lazy form of composting and I have some dirt in a hole in my yard and I’ve just put my scraps in there and I cover it with soil. It’s really easy you don’t have to be really technical, I’m sure you can, the benefit of doing home composting like I do you get lots of surprise vegetables. I’ve had rockmelon and pumpkin I now have some spring onions and another mystery plant growing in my garden.

But yeah, definitely just looking for the home compostable symbol is like very important for people who want to make sure when they are just chucking in their garden. Okay Nancy, to wrap up our interview today, I love to ask you a couple of little fast-track questions, I’d love you to just answer something that comes to your mind. First thing, now, number one, what’s one thing an eco-business could do today that would create a bigger impact for their business and the environment?

NANCY: I think looking at your business foundations and pinpointing the areas where you think you can make the biggest change would be a good starting point. Everything from where your raw materials come from to how your product or package or we’re talking about packaging, so the package is disposed of like where along that line, can you make a little change?

PETRIA: Okay, so maybe like looking at they’re, so getting really transparent on their supply chain.

NANCY: Yeah, researching and educating yourself on where does all the materials come from. There’s a website called www.renourish.com and I think you can put in your project and you can track your impact on there They have a lot of tools on there that you can yeah, so just getting more informed about your impact, I suppose. 

PETRIA: So, renourish is that what is www.renourish.com?

NANCY: I’m not sure if there’s an au at the end.

PETRIA: That’s okay, I’ll have a little look and I’ll pop the information in the show notes, I think that’s really valuable. So for anyone that’s listening here perhaps they can set aside an hour this week and clear it and put it in their calendar because I find if you make that commitment, once you’re listening to a podcast and actually set aside that hour do of research. I think that’s a really good tip. Now my number two question is what is one thing that you wished you had known when you started your business?

NANCY: Oh my gosh, I wish I knew so much more. It’s crazy how much you can learn in a year, I wish I had known more about well, this isn’t related to packaging, but just more about the business side. I mean I’m a designer, so I know how to design but all the other stuff that comes with running a business, like how to sell, how to market and how to, what’s the proper way to do social media because I’ve only ever done that as a personal account, so that stuff I had to learn.

PETRIA: It is good but your business is amazing like you have such a beautiful social media account and your website, everything that you’re doing is beautiful. If people want to come over and check you out and get in touch with you after this podcast, where would they be able to find you?

NANCY: I’m most often, I’m on Instagram all the time, I also have a website, but yeah, you can find me and chat with me on Instagram.

PETRIA: What’s your Instagram name?

NANCY: Nancy J design.

PETRIA: Lovely, if they wanted to possibly work with you because I know lots of people want to either create their own products or their design or lots of people like myself would rather just outsource it and get an expert to do it. What’s your website?

NANCY: It’s nancyjdesign.com.

PETRIA: I’ll pop all this information down in the show notes, but before we wrap up the interview, Nancy I would love, is there anything that our listeners could maybe download or maybe something to get them started if they schedule this little bit of time to work on their business? Do you have anything that they could grab?

NANCY: Yeah, so I have a handbook called the Sustainable Minds Handbook and in there it takes you through like wherever you’re at with your business, if you’re a start-up or your established business, defining your brand personality. There’s also a checklist in there for packaging where it goes through all the ideas of creating a more sustainable packaging that goes beyond just like changing the materials. 

PETRIA: Amazing, I have also downloaded this and it is very valuable and the design, of course, is beautiful. It also helps when you’re a designer you can do all these things.

Nancy, you so much for joining me, I think that’s been really inspiring and you’ve shared lots of valuable tips and I really hope that our listeners can be able to walk away with this with a few things that they can start to really think about and to really question with the design process and hopefully if they need any suggestions or how they can reach over on Instagram and DM you.

NANCY: Okay great, thank you and thanks for having me. I just wanted to say how much I like what you’re doing with your membership program, it’s great to have one place to go where everybody’s ego minded and like try, aiming for the same thing.

PETRIA: Thank you, yes and for anyone who wants to come over and join, I actually have a free little Facebook group and Nancy’s in there and there’s a whole lot of other really beautiful heart-centred, eco-entrepreneurs. I really think that like, we’re really I think it’s joining hands like everyone’s in that same value, they’ve got the same beliefs and they really want to make that bigger impact, don’t they?

NANCY: Yeah and learning from each other too. I mean, everybody’s, because it’s not a standard process like being sustainable there’s not like okay just follow these steps and you’ll be good like it takes so much research and there’s new things coming out all the time. So just having that shared space where it’s like people are discovering things and sharing it like it’s great.

PETRIA: Yeah, oh, amazing, thank you so much, Nancy. This has been so amazing and we’ll definitely be chatting soon.

NANCY: Okay, thanks so much.

PETRIA: I hope that Nancy has shed some light for you on eco-packaging in your business and really started to get you thinking about your supply chain and thinking how you can start to make some more sustainable changes in your business for your packaging. 

Now, remember by making these changes these add value to your business but also keep at the back of your mind remember this ripple effect you are creating. Every small eco change that you create in your business and the more knowledge that you learn about how to be more sustainable in your business, your brand can take so much pride of that impact. You are creating an impact and our planet can feel this. 

Now, don’t forget as well if you want to know more about my online eco-community that we mentioned it is such a beautiful space for heart-centred eco-entrepreneurs who are really ready to create there dream eco-business and create an impact on our planet. Remember this isn’t a course, it’s a membership you dip in and out and you take what you need. Coco Rose community is a perfect blend knowledge, coaching, community and we honestly cannot wait to welcome you, lovely just head over pop your details into the link in my show notes. You will not regret this because this is the last intake for 2020 the doors are going to be open very soon. Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. If you are new here, my name is Patria and these podcast episodes come out every single week and I am so happy that you are here. 

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But anyway, lovely, thank you so much for listening to this podcast. If you are new here I am Petria and these podcasts come out every single week and I am honestly so grateful and so happy that you were here. 

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ABOUT YOUR HOSTPetria Coco Rose Eco

Hi there, I’m Petria and thanks for joining me here.

 

As a busy Mum to four young children, and with a fly-in-fly-out husband, I understand the juggle between family, home life and work … there’s precious little time to spare. I know how tricky it can be to make the right eco-friendly choices for your family – that’s why I’ve created Coco Rose Eco.

 

Through seeking out the most sustainable choices for my own family, I’ve carefully selected beautiful, unique and eco-friendly Australian made products which I happily use for our family and give as quality gifts. I’m excited to share my knowledge of all things eco-friendly with you and this community.